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Southgate’s final full season with Borough, the only league club he has managed, saw them relegated and was sacked 3 years in to a 5 year contract having won nothing with them either.

2008–09 season: Relegation and dismissaledit

The pre-season build-up ahead of the 2008–09 season was disappointing for the club. Due to heavy spending during the previous season, the club's net spending was almost nil. Furthermore, club legend Mark Schwarzer left the club after eleven years, joining Premier League rivals Fulham on the expiration of his contract.[50] Furthermore, key players such as George Boateng and Lee Cattermole also left the club, once again leaving Southgate with a rebuilding challenge to change Middlesbrough's fortunes.[51][52]Despite the negative events during pre-season, Middlesbrough secured two victories out of a possible three, resulting in Southgate being named the Premier League Manager of the Month for August. This made Southgate the second person, after Stuart Pearce, to achieve both the Player and Manager of the Month awards, and he became the first Middlesbrough manager to win the award since Terry Venables in January 2001.[53]

In November 2008, Southgate took Middlesbrough up to eighth place in the league, following an away win against an in-form Aston Villa, another former playing club of Southgate's; however, Middlesbrough then went fourteen games without a win, until they beat Liverpool at home 2–0 on 28 February 2009.[54] After an away defeat against Stoke City, some of the travelling supporters were calling for his dismissal, having only achieved a single win in eighteen games and survival from relegation looking highly unlikely. On 24 March, chairman Steve Gibson spoke out on the manager's future, stating that sacking Southgate "would not help the situation".[55]

Due to results elsewhere, Middlesbrough's status as a Premier League club went down to the final day: they needed relegation rivals Newcastle United and Hull City to lose, with them needing a five-goal swing to the latter in goal difference.[56]Middlesbrough faced West Ham United away from home; the game ended in a 2–1 defeat, confirming Middlesbrough's relegation to the Championship after eleven consecutive seasons in the top-flight, as a 19th-place finish was confirmed.[57] Following their relegation, Southgate expressed his determination to achieve instant promotion back up to the Premier League, praising the supporters and showing his sorrow for them in the process.[58]

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4 hours ago, Brian Johnson said:

Who was calling him a dummy?

I said in my mind that's what I thought happened. I must be wrong if he did well.

I remember watching us get knocked out around my mate Danger's house and the people there, although inebriated, were not impressed.

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2 hours ago, philpvfc said:

Howe and McKenna have both won promotion, that is far more than Southgate has won.

I thought we were on about winning against top teams - not Championship cannon fodder!!!!!

I think we just need to agree to differ, Phil, and keep our fingers crossed it all turns out well!

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5 hours ago, Jacko51 said:

I thought we were on about winning against top teams - not Championship cannon fodder!!!!!

I think we just need to agree to differ, Phil, and keep our fingers crossed it all turns out well!

Well, if that’s what you were thinking then it has been shown on here that Southgates record against top teams is not good at all, even worse than Hoddle’s.

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10 minutes ago, valiant_593 said:

Apparently Alexander Arnold is starting the first game in cm. Says everything you need to know about Southgate. 

It was Klopp that started putting Trent in midfield for Liverpool which works really.

Does that make Klopp a sh11t manager too?

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6 minutes ago, Brian Johnson said:

A world class manager in Jurgen Klopp playing one of the best passers of the ball in this country in a midfield position?

Surely not?? What’s the world coming too.

One picks him there due to injuries, the other picks him over excellent alternatives 

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